Stay Slim to Fly: Airlines Charging Extra for Overweight Flyers
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Stay Slim to Fly: Airlines Charging Extra for Overweight Flyers Could you be charged extra to fly based on your weight?

With the rising price of fuel, airlines are making all sorts of moves to cut costs and snatch extra money from their customers. Simple math and common sense shows that a heavy person costs more to transport than an Olson Twin, which has airlines discussing a fat surcharge.

Airlines are now discussing the incorporation of surcharges based on weight. While luggage has always had weight limits, people have not – but that might be changing.

An airline spokesman stated that they average a person and their luggage to weigh 220 Lbs. That is how they crunch their numbers to project profit. Most likely, that will be the magic number used to determine whether your paying standard or extra to fly.

I’ve heard two arguments to this new idea:
The first argument is obvious – Overweight individuals are outraged that there are plans in the works to discriminate and charge extra for being large. I’ve heard some say they wouldn’t fly due to embarrassment, and others claimed they would purposely fly just to sue them for discrimination.

Then there are those consumers that somewhat like the idea. These proponents of the idea claim that the airlines will be raising prices in some way, and it would only be fair to base it on weight. If shipping a package is based on weight, why isn’t it the same to ship a person? If you were shipping a 3 lbs package, how would you feel if you were paying the same price as someone shipping a 20 lbs package?

My Opinion
I am one of those people who can almost always see both side of an argument. I could see where it would be very embarrassing to travel with friends and have to explain how you’re being charged extra because of your weight.

Meanwhile, the "delivering a package" example really makes you wonder if that shouldn’t apply to shipping people as well. In that respect, is it actually discriminating against light people that they have to share the “heavy cost” with those who are weighing down the plane.

As with many things, I’m sure that skinny people will favor this plan and heavier people will be outraged. People generally favor plans that work in their benefit. Heavy people make up a large part of the population (no pun intended) so I doubt this plan will be fulfilled.

What are your thoughts on airlines charging per pound?


on 6/5/2008

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ryan Yep, you can find people who don't care about their health, but most people tend to care about their money.
ryan on 6/9/2008 in response to taylorryan

taylorryan I agree, if you take two seats then you should have to pay a bit more. maybe it can serve as motivation to push people to become healthier and shed the pounds. when money is an issue that can motivate alot of people.
taylorryan on 6/8/2008

JimB Seems only fair to me that if you take up two seats, you should be charged more.
BTW, Ryan, did you happen to see the fake ad that the Philly papers ran for a fake airline, "Derrie-Aire," that charged passengers by the pound? Here's the AP story:

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Phila. newspapers run ads about fake airline Derrie-Air
Eds: Moving on general news and financial services.
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By DEBORAH YAOŽ
AP Business WriterŽ

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Derrie-Air has been exposed. ¶
Readers of The Philadelphia Inquirer and Philadelphia Daily News opened their papers Friday to see ads for a new airline called Derrie-Air, which purportedly charges passengers by the pound. ¶
But the new carrier will never get off the ground. It’s a one-day advertising campaign about a fake airline by Philadelphia Media Holdings, the papers’ owner, and Gyro ad agency. ¶
In light blue banners throughout the papers — as well as on their Web site, Philly.com — Derrie-Air cheerily trumpets its policy: The more you weigh, the more you pay. The ads direct readers to the Web site www.flyderrie-air.com. ¶
Philadelphia Media Holdings spokesman Jay Devine said the goal is to “demonstrate the power of our brands in generating awareness and generating traffic for our advertisers, and put a smile on people’s faces.” ¶
The company will track traffic to the Derrie-Air site. Devine said there’s already buzz about the campaign on online blogs. ¶
Visitors to the airline site learn that Derrie-Air is the world’s only carbon-neutral luxury airline, justifying its pay-by-the-pound policy by saying that it takes more fuel to move heavier objects. The carrier pledges to plant trees to offset every pound of carbon its planes release into the atmosphere. ¶
Derrie-Air’s sample rates range from $1.40 per pound to fly from Philadelphia to Chicago to $2.25 per pound to fly from Philadelphia to Los Angeles. ¶
But those who scroll to the bottom of the site find out the truth behind Derrie-Air. ¶
A disclaimer labels the ad campaign “fictitious” and says it is designed “to test the results of advertising in our print and online products and to stimulate discussion on a timely environmental topic of interest to all citizens.” ¶
“In other words,” it says, “smile, we’re pulling your leg.” ¶
JimB on 6/6/2008

ryan Yep... definately. Overweight people will make the argument that their condition is a disease which they cannot help, and therefore claim that it violates the Americans with disabilities act.
ryan on 6/5/2008 in response to runningbear

ryan The airlines are definitely taking a hit, so I guess you can't blame them for raising the prices somehow - but what about when the price of oil goes down? It's already been dropping in the past few days. They definitely won't take away their extra charges once the price of oil drops.
ryan on 6/5/2008 in response to kylakae

runningbear Wow. I foresee discrimination lawsuits in the airlines' future.
runningbear on 6/5/2008

kylakae Ryan, I agree with you there. I dislike SW's policy but at least it's not based on weight. It's based solely on whether you're infringing on another persons space, which does have its merit. According to Wiki, the average American woman weighs 155 and the average American man weighs 190.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_weight

Part of the problem is that Americans always want a bargain and airlines are struggling to keep the costs down and stay competitive. Costs are so low that there is very little margin and airlines are looking for any way they can to make up the difference.
kylakae on 6/5/2008

ryan Kyla.. great points. I thought 220 lbs sounds like a low number as well. Maybe there are people who only carry one bag that are lowering the average. Also, I've heard about the southwest airlines policy for people taking up too much room, but what's crazy about this is it's based strictly on weight (even if you aren't that wide). Meaning, tall people and muscular people will be affected as well.

If they do decide to do this, I think they should at least make the policy where people are weighed with their bags at the same time so that it's not defined how much weight is coming from the bags and how much is coming from the person. That could help to preserve people's dignity.
ryan on 6/5/2008 in response to kylakae

kylakae Also, Southwest Airlines has been doing this for a while now with their "Person of Size Policy."

http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/cos_qa.html
kylakae on 6/5/2008

kylakae While I do feel for the airlines I don't think that demeaning people is ever the right answer.

Surely 220 can't be correct. If you were carrying two bags at 50lbs apiece that would mean they are calculating an average weight of 120lbs for a person. I would think that weight is a low average for the US. Even with the 1 bag they are now allowing on some airlines that would bring the average weight for people to 170 which is better but a LOT of men and certainly some women would then fall into the fat category. If a guy is over 6' or a bodybuilder they can easily and often top 200lbs.

Here is another thought.... put in some extra wide seats for heavier people and sell them as "comfort seating" or something. Provide bigger people an option that lets them maintain their dignity.
kylakae on 6/5/2008


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